Posts by Tyrone van leyen

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A nice song for right now

by Gregor in

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hope this links ok. www.last.fm./music/mama+cass/_/the+good+times+are+coming.

Gregor I am glad you posted this. I was having the same idea about posting an appropriate music thread for leaving the watchtower and the closure of Jwd. It would be a melancholic and celebratory thread of limits, by choosing this as a theme.

I do not wish to compete with you, or take over your thread. In order to accomodate a wider range of tunes for this thread, the song title must be relative to the two themes but the song doesn't have to be about the exactness of theme, because oviously there arn't 100,000 thousands songs written for this. It would be dedicated of course to Simon and Angarhad. I will give an example in my next few posts, or if you want I will buzz off.

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Before this thing closes....someone respond to and make sense of this

by iamthewolf5562 in

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i'm not very good at debating doctrine, etc., but my feelings on the whole shunning thing is that it just proves to me it's a cult.

you don't force someone's whole support system to be in this one small group and then take it away when a small rule is broken.. when the prodigal son came back his father welcomed him immediately with open arms and a feast.

he didn't make his son sit in the back of the room for 6 months and refuse to talk to him until he was sure he had repented properly.. jackie.

Tyrone van leyen

Lets get down to basics. The reality of the situation is that that once you take the religion out of it, it just becomes a human power trip of coercsion, that is disguised to look like some heavenly pronouncement.

These are men who sin disgustingly, like everyone else. No one in there right mind with a freeethinking agenda, would take these self riteous monkeys seriously. When your family is pressuing you, because they are brainwashed, it's easy to forget that 99.5% of the world would not subject themselves to this ridiculous childish silliness anymore than I would subject myself, to the punishments of being an ifidel, under Islam. The whole thing is outrageous and not to be taken seriously. They can only have as much power over you, as you let them have.

Who in the hell do they think they are? The morality police? They have that in Afghanistan and Iran, you know. Would you be a part of that? I think not. Try to assosiate with folks who build up rather than break you down and blackmale you, through your family. People who try not to judge before they take the rafter out of their own eye! Doctrine has nothing to do with this. "Thats' their world," and its a twisted one. Morality comes from inside. It is the spirit of the law not the letter of the law that counts. It is a matter of common sense. They too are sinners and must be punished just as they do unto others.

Sin and crime are two different things.

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SO, WHERE ELSE SHALL WE NOW GO???

by minimus in

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where are most of you posters going to go now?

there seems like there's more than a few places that are popping up.

(and thank you for already inviting me to some new forums.

Tyrone van leyen

I'm not sure where I will go just yet. I'll have to observe different board dynamics. Meantime, as this board is going to close, I congradulate you on your prolific world record posts. One could always count on old Minimus for a laugh and a chat. You were bedrock here.Thanx

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JWD form being removed. WTBTS will rejoice

by Jim Dee in

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the post a few days ago saying that the discussion forum must be removed is sad.

its sad because it gives troubled ones a way of leaving the wtbts its sad because it removes support to ones damaged by the wtbts its upsetting because free voice against the wtbts has been removed

my brother in law - co in uk - said the announcement went through london bethel like a dose of salts.

Tyrone van leyen

I hope the society isn't stupid enough to think that cuz 1 newspaper folds , there will never be another newspaper. This is the information age, Watchtower morons. All lessons and knowledge from this board will be learned and something even better will come along. That is the wonder of change. Something you folks arn't very familiar with.

I'm afraid the genie is out of the bottle now. Do you really think that all these people will let you off the hook, for years and years of abuse to our families. If you do, you probably beleive there is going to be a paradise too, and that you will be the only riteous ones saved. Ha Ha Ha!

This is just the calm before the storm. This board is not being shut down over legal or financial messes, it is just a personal choice. Trust me, there is tons of talent here. I'm looking forward to raking your asses over the coals when the new forum arrives.

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Tyrone Van leyer...if your reading this take care dude!

by chrisjoel in

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hope ottawa is treating u well ..ejoyed all those music posts you did long ago....im sure a lot of ppl havent forgotten about you.. didnt forget about you.

take it easy....fedoree errr frank..

Tyrone van leyen

AudeSapere, you know here I'm comin from. Thanks for your comments.

Coco, You son of a gun, I knew I forgot someone. You really do, add a touch of class and gentility to the board. Yes, we can never know, how some, who might think, there words are insignificant, can effect others. So true! I'm glad you understand my random abscences as well

Summer, this is a perfect example of what I'm saying. I didn't think too much of the letter to God that I wrote. In fact, although many could see where I was coming from, I thought it might stir up some contempt as well. If you're from Ottawa, perhaps we should have a tea and discuss quantitative mathematics. Just kidding, that's my brothers bag. See, I am getting better.

I have been toying with the idea of a breif music thread as this board could shut down anytime, I suppose. It might be a fitting end to a great forum. A melancholy and celebratory end, with tunes fitting into the theme of leaving witnesses, and the close of the board. If I decide to do it, I will explain fully, how it will work. The thread would be dedicated to Simon and Angarhad. It will have a theme, for the purpose of being breif, and having an end, in case it goes on for a hundred pages. LOL! We'll see.

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JWD closing haikus and poetry

by Mysterious in

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the darkness outside.

lingering over us now.

will dubs find the light.

Tyrone van leyen

The healing winds subsides

The fires dies

A new and improved temple is built

The antitower rises from the ashes

The pilgrims converge again in cyberspace

More outreaching, and and immune to the flames

The phoenix will rise, to finish its battle with the beast.

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JWD closing haikus and poetry

by Mysterious in

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friends

the darkness outside.

lingering over us now.

will dubs find the light.

Tyrone van leyen

Now is the hour

Take flight from the tower

The pill you've been given, is bitter and sour

Only the net, will give light and empower

Elders may intimidate, I'm sure they even masturbate!

But all this, need not be your fate

For it is they, that we will liquidate

Oh mighty ones of the apostate!

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Tyrone Van leyer...if your reading this take care dude!

by chrisjoel in

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hope ottawa is treating u well ..ejoyed all those music posts you did long ago....im sure a lot of ppl havent forgotten about you.. didnt forget about you.

take it easy....fedoree errr frank..

Tyrone van leyen

Thanks for your kindness Frank ! It's strange that I tune in today,and find the board in a state of rebirth, after so long a run. Hell, even Jay Leno's givin up the ghost these days. It is only,the next stage of evolution.

My thanks to Simon and the mods for putting up with my venting and sensitivities. I feel I have done a lot of healing here. That in part,is why I have been scarce lately. In self reflection, my own recorded words on the board,show this.

It is nice that a few folks remember the music thread,rather than the rants. They were necessary however. Many have extended their hand in freindship and I have backed away, or gently faded. I want those folks to know, that it is not personal. It never was. I love you all. I still need some work, but at least I feel more human now, than ever before.

It's funny but among the many intellects, the fellow that finally effected my phyche, was AK Jeff. It was a simple pm, he sent me. Five words. " We are on your side.' Others have shown their support to whom I am very grateful, but for some reason after Jeff said that, a burden was lifted off me and I started to post less. It was what I really needed to hear. A simple Pm by Burn also had an impact. Simple and Burn is an Oxymoron by the way, but this simplicity seems to have a great impact. I'm still digesting it.

To all those I consider freinds, I offer my sincererest apologies for dropping off the map. These are folks I have corresponded with and then vanished. Crumpy, Guest with questions, Spaznik, Truthseeker, JexW, RAF, Ms Mc D, Skully. Of these afformentioned only two know my story fully.

At first, when i came to the board, I didn't want anyone to know. Letting one person know was safe. Frankly, I didn't really come here to socialize, but to heal. Being understood was more important to me. After wailing for so long and venting it was Jeffs words, The " We" part that finally sunk into my head. This is significant because the "we" that I knew publicly otracized me. Now there are other folks that matter more. I am not saying I have become perfect. Far from it, we all carry baggage to some extent,but I feel I must evolve, just as this board is doing, through good times and bad. Lets hope the core of what made this board great, remains in tact, in some other forum. Who knows what the future will bring!

TYRONE

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What percentage of Bethelites view porn?

by inkling in

let's be honest here... single young celibate men, with evenings to kill,.

in a room with high speed internet.. any guesses?

[inkling].

Tyrone van leyen

Of course they wouldn't monitor the slow speed connection. There wouldn't be anyone left in Bethel if they did. That sure sucks that an org. as rich as the Jw's, even use dial up. Amazing hippocracy!

It must be nice for the GB. No ones gonna monitor them, and I'm sure they have high speed for themselves too. I don't beleive for one second, a bunch of guys who never got married, spend their evenings getting high, reading the Revelation book.

Just like the un scandal. As they might put it , This is a great abomination to Jehovah! Ahem, Ummmm, we were never a part of that, you know!

I got an idea. Why don't you GB lunk heads, spend your evenings, reading the chapter you wrote in the Youth Book on masturbation. You made us do it...... Don't get the pages sticky now!

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Aussie outback Witnessing experience! Have you done isolated territory!

by Witness 007 in

driving for miles between houses...sometimes i would lose a hub-cap and have to go back "hubcap hunting.

" why bother since my car was as old as i was .....20 years.

people that live 30 miles from town would be shocked to see us!

Tyrone van leyen

My brother was in Australia and the first thing he did was hook up with a member of the annointed and witnessed up the coast of Darwin and in Brisbane where my grandmothers brother lives. He did this for his whole vacation. I don't know if that's considered rural or not though, but he took it very seriously. That was in the 80's.